An Epic Problem (The Jimquisition)

An Epic Problem (The Jimquisition)

(Jim grunting)
– I have no joke planned for these today,
I just saw ’em in the studio and thought,
“Yeah, puttin’ those on.”
(claws thudding)
♪ Born different ♪
♪ Born innocent ♪
♪ Born perfect ♪
♪ I’m not like you, I’m a ♪
♪ Born lover ♪
♪ Born livid ♪
♪ And I know I’m, I’m
not like you, I was ♪
♪ Born clever ♪
♪ Born knowledgeable ♪
♪ Born better than ♪
– You know folks, I find myself
with an interesting dilemma.
On the last video I did in this series,
I made a joke about
desperately begging for people
to like and subscribe on the video.
The thing is, then actually did see
a significant uptick in subscribers.
So the thing is that begging
for likes and subscribes
is pathetic and worth making a joke about,
except it legitimately really does work.
So please like and
subscribe, please! (sobbing)
I’ve got crab gloves on!
Oh, I left this light on.
It should be fine.
(light clicking)
I mean, it fucks with
continuity turnin’ it off.
Anyway, we’re going to have
ourselves a grown up discussion
about the Epic Games Store,
a subject that’s gotten very
touchy, a little bit emotional,
and some might say just
a touch ridiculous,
but we’re gonna try regardless
to discuss this in an adult manner.
Now, I’m gonna say some things
that the Epic haters are
gonna really, really like,
I’m gonna say a couple things
that they may not appreciate so much,
but I urge you all to
take on board what I say,
hear me out and come to a
sensible, calm, rational
(Jim laughing)
That ain’t gonna fuckin’ happen!
It’s no secret by now
that the conversation
around the Epic Games Store has
gotten really fucking nasty!
I mean really fucking nasty.
When the Epic Games Store started
it all seemed like a good idea, initially,
and theoretically it still is.
Epic had a major market
leverage with “Fortnite”
and was rolling in Tencent money,
the digital storefront it was
positioning itself against
was in dire need of real competition.
The stage was set for
something interesting,
I mean Steam was a mess of a storefront
with an oversaturation of garbage,
a number of genuinely hateful communities,
and such a crowded storefront
that many good indie games
were dying on the vine.
However, it soon became clear that Epic
wasn’t interested in merely competing,
it was out to throttle its opponents
by throwing huge stacks of cash around
and buying up exclusivity deals
with games both large and small.
It did so in some pretty shitty ways, too,
with major games like “Metro Exodus”
disappearing from Steam less
than a month after launch
and a number of Kickstarter
projects leaving their backers
feeling cold after promising Steam keys
that would no longer be available.
Epic has since said that it will continue
to pursue exclusives regardless
of the games’ prior status or promises.
Now overall I have a big problem
with Epic Games as a company.
Their treatment of
workers has been abusive
with unreasonable perpetual crunch periods
resulting from the perpetual
service nature of “Fortnite”.
Tencent having so much
control and influence
over the industry is
something I never like to see
any one single company have, Disney!
And Epic’s exclusivity spending spree
has been a capitalistic
juggernaut of bullshit
that demonstrates how cash can be used
to shortcut one’s way onto the
path of a de facto monopoly,
and that’s clearly what they want.
Epic’s Tim Sweeney talks a big game
about merely wanting Steam to offer
the same generous revenue split
with developers that they do,
but the stated goal
makes no business sense.
You do not get into a market with the aim
of making a rival copy your
biggest competitive advantage
and subsequently disarm
your biggest weapon.
Epic’s tactic of aggressively
pursuing exclusives,
from indies to so-called AAA games,
is a power play that attempts
to starve the market of goods
and turn itself into the sole distributor.
However mad you are at the
latest game going exclusive,
it’s ultimately not the fault
of the game or its developer.
Epic Games is the problem with Epic Games.
Epic Games and the economic
system it operates in
allowing and encouraging businesses
to behave the way it’s been behaving.
And I really feel we need
to refocus ourselves here
because if you do have an issue
with the way Epic’s been doing business,
you ultimately have an issue
with the unchecked capitalism,
or ca-triple-apitalism as we call it here,
that’s allowed all this to happen.
In this market, Epic is
free to spend its money
and swallow up games by the bucketload.
In this market, Epic is free to gain
a stranglehold grip on
PC digital distribution.
In this market, Epic is
free to pretty much do
whatever the hell it wants,
provided it has the money
to pick up the tab, which it does.
It’s got lots of money, lots of a capital.
Sadly, and we’ve got to address this,
leveling criticism an
Epic has gotten harder
because bad actors have kind
of ruined it for everyone.
We’re at a point where
criticizing the Epic Store
gets one tarred with the same brush
as complete imbeciles
flinging their shit around
incoherently just to dogpile
in on a hot controversy.
Anyone with criticism of the Epic Store
is now lumped in with caterwauling idiots,
and, well, it’s really
easy for them to do that
because there are so
many caterwauling idiots.
Because the internet is the internet
and game discussions particularly tend
to get just plain
horrible with enough time.
The subject of the Epic Store
has turned thoroughly poisonous
and the outrage around Epic Games
has officially gotten out of control.
The breaking point for
this has been “Ooblets”,
a game that signed an
exclusivity deal with Epic
resulting in the developer Glumberland
getting bombarded with hate
speech, harassment, and threats.
Now I had issues with the way
Glumberland announced the deal,
dismissing what I feel
are some genuine concerns
about Epic’s business practices,
but a video I’d published on the matter
is currently set to private after seeing
just how fucking vile the
attacks on the team had gotten,
because I don’t wanna be
even indirectly contributing
to the kind of horror show displayed here.
And if you’re offended
that I censored myself,
well, sorry but I’m not gonna
accept blame for taking it down.
I want no part of that bullshit.
Blame the abusers, I want
no part of that toxic shite.
Nobody deserves what that team got.
Physical threats, hate speech
of pretty much every stripe,
outright lies and sheer gibbering hatred
made up thousands of
messages sent their way,
and, folks, that’s just
not fucking helpful, is it?
Anyone who did that really
fucked things up for everyone
because once we get to the point
where developers are
receiving that kind of vomit
it poisons the well, totally overshadows
any illegitimate critique
of Epic there might be
and paints any problem people
might have with the store
as coming from a group of
screaming maladjusted morons
thanks to the screaming
maladjusted morons.
And Epic Games knows it, too,
it played up to the
situation pretty effectively,
promising to support developers in future
and help them cope with abuse,
which is what it should
be doing, absolutely,
but one can’t deny the corporation
also walked away from this problem
with armfuls of positive PR for itself
and a lot of games media headlines,
and the abusers handed
Epic that publicity.
Even if you’re a heartless fuck
who doesn’t care about
people being abused,
then I will appeal to your
pragmatism at the very least.
Harassing and threatening developers
will not get you what you want,
it will get you the opposite,
and also you’re a dick.
As I said when a “Wolfenstein”
level designer was
harassed off Twitter over
“Youngblood’s” microtransactions,
it makes their job of criticism
so much fucking harder
when idiots spill their monstrous rhetoric
at any accessible target they can find.
It taints the whole
debate, jerks the spotlight
violently away from credible discussion,
and unfairly sets the sights
on ground-level individuals
who are simply not the goddamn problem!
If any abusers out there genuinely care
about the subject they’re
acting so mad about
and not just attacking
for the sheer fun of it,
then they’re scoring an own
goal every time they decide
to throw their anger at
completely the wrong people.
This is especially worth remembering
when it comes to indie developers.
Look, you’ve gotta give them some slack!
It’s a dog-eat-dog horror show
out there in game development!
I’ll say what I’ve said every single time
I’ve talked about this:
I do not blame any one
indie developer whatsoever
for taking the Epic exclusivity deal.
Barring extra circumstances,
like crowdfunding promises
or last-minute changes
that fuck with pre-orders,
I think smaller games
need your understanding.
They’re not big AAA publishers,
they’re not acting out of a
malice or bloody-minded greed,
they’re just trying to
survive like the rest of us.
Be the game “Ooblets”,
“Shakedown: Hawaii”, “Hades”,
whatever, there are very
understandable reasons
to want to sign with Epic.
The revenue split is
unquestionably generous,
with Epic only taking 12% of the cut
as opposed to Steam’s 33%,
and for any small studio
that’s hard to pass up.
Plus, any struggling small
developer is gonna benefit
from the upfront exclusivity
cash that often ensures
a game’s financial success
regardless of sales.
I think that’s a deal a lot
of you watching out there
would find fuckin’ tempting!
On top of that, the Epic Store is not full
of asset flips that bury their release
or games about school shootings
and killing gay people
that the algorithm might
associate genuine games with.
– A lot of indie games
have struggled on Steam.
The market is so crowded
and the lack of oversight
has led to the underhanded
exploitation of many features
that can push down quality work
and elevate bad actors peddling
what Valve itself calls fake games.
But to bring this back to reminding you
what the real problem is, there’s a bit
of a sinister side to
indies taking the deal,
and the blame is with,
well, take a wild guess.
Stories are starting to
circulate that Epic Games itself
is courteously railroading developers
into going exclusive with them
or not having a shot on
the storefront at all.
Recently the developer of “DARQ” revealed
that Epic approached them about
taking an exclusivity deal
and, when refused, said it couldn’t
let “DARQ” be sold as
a non-exclusive game.
“I felt like going for an exclusivity deal
“would show that my word means nothing
“as I had just promised the
game would launch on Steam.
“I thought it was a bad idea
to disappoint all those people
“and prove to the world that
my announcements mean nothing.
“Epic made it clear that they
“reached out to me with
an exclusivity deal.
“I politely turned them down
“before we had a chance to discuss
“any details, money offered, et cetera.
“I asked them if they would be willing
“to sell ‘DARQ’ non-exclusively
“and they explained at this point in time
“it’s not something they can do.”
This ain’t the first time it’s happened.
“SkateBIRD” was turned down by Epic
when it wouldn’t pledge its fealty,
with the developer saying:
“Epic doesn’t want SkateBIRD,
“they say they’re focusing on exclusives
“and SkateBIRD promised Steam keys
“in its Kickstarter, therefore nah.”
Epic is actively pursuing
a number of indie titles
that show significant pre-launch interest
but Epic’s own interest
is purely conditional.
It’s eager to work with small companies
only if it can be the
sole seller of their work,
which says a lot, I feel,
especially for a company that
claims it’s doing all this
for the betterment of the PC market.
That’s been Tim Sweeney’s whole angle.
What this says is that
the Epic Games Store
is about disrupting the market
more than being a decent storefront
for customers and game purveyors alike,
that its snapping up games
simply to have them as exclusives
rather than offer them to shoppers at all,
that it only cares about indie games
if it can use those indie
games to hurt its competition
and feed into that disruption.
Epic knows full well who
has the power in the dynamic
between it and a tiny indie company
and it’s exploiting that
power to the fullest.
And if you’ve ever read about the way
Epic is said to treat its workers,
exploiting power dynamics
for selfish gains
is something Epic’s very,
very well-versed in.
If you’re a small-time dev
who wants and needs that safety
net of success Epic offers,
if you’d like the extra security
that a platform like Steam can’t offer,
well, Epic can offer it to you,
but only if you cut Steam
out of the equation entirely.
Some people perceive even
small Studios taking the deal
as something motivated by sheer greed,
but Epic’s revenue split
isn’t merely attractive bait,
it’s being used to effectively
strong-arm creators with an ultimatum,
an ultimatum that I’m not entirely sure
has been given to AAA publishers,
some of whom seem to enjoy
being on both the Epic
Store and Steam just fine,
and are literally in it for the money
because they’re big honking corporations
and that’s all they ever care about.
Epic is actively putting indie developers
into awkward positions,
profiting off them,
using them to inflict
damage on the competition,
and exploiting the backlash they receive
for its own advertising.
Doesn’t sound like a corporation
that cares about the PC market.
And even if it wasn’t doing all that,
I’d still understand
indies taking the deal,
but the generosity of the deal
combined with the railroady
conditional nature of it?
Yeah, indies are in a tough position
and they don’t deserve the
community dumping all over them.
But, again, in the economic system
that we here call ca-triple-apitalism,
everything Epic’s doing
is just fine and dandy.
It’s how businesses get ahead,
with brutal, ruthless,
uncaring efficiency.
You’re mad about what Epic’s doing?
Get mad at a system that ensures
the most effective way to complete
is to pay for your
competitors’ starvation.
This is capitalism unfettered
and it’s at the root
of the video game industry’s
many transgressions.
Money flows to money,
the rich are always
positioned to get richer
because the more money you have,
the easier it is to get even more.
You just use the cash you’ve got
to spend everyone else to death.
Steam needs competition but
under ca-triple-apitalism,
this is what competition looks like.
Using bottomless reserves of riches
to buy up all the goods and
replace the de facto monopoly
by transforming into
the de facto monopoly,
a monopoly you’ll keep
until a richer company
comes along to replace you.
The big fish poaches exclusives
from the little fish.
Epic has tons of money
and with tons of money
you don’t have to build a quality product,
offer a superior experience,
or otherwise give
advantages to the end user.
You just have to have more
cash than the other fuckers
and crush them with it!
Anything less than that
would be seen by executives
as a waste of time and resources.
Why bother being better
when being richer gets
you what you want quicker?
There’s nothing preventing this
and in a market where the only golden rule
is to make all of the money
as swiftly as possible
and damn the consequences,
it’s something that will
just keep happening.
Oh, well that’s a shame.
Saved me some money, I guess.
Thanks to a lotta the nonsense
surrounding controversies
with the Epic Games Store,
a lot of people have decided to
not take any of it seriously,
but I do still think
there are serious concerns
to bring up with Epic,
not just as a storefront
owner and a platform holder
but as a company overall.
There’s a lot about that
business and how it operates
that I do not like, do not
appreciate and worry about.
I was talking about this
with friend of the show
and internet sloth Casey Explosion
the other day where she pointed out that
because Epic Games is a disruptive force
and only really cares about
being a disruptive force,
what happens if the Epic Games Store
doesn’t work out the way they want it to?
We’ve already seen with a lot of
the diversified television
streaming channels,
a lot of those end up falling apart,
the smaller ones, things
like Seeso just disappeared,
I think that’s the one.
You know, they take these exclusive shows,
some of them quite good,
and then just evaporate
and you’re often left wondering,
well, where is the show gonna go?
where is the stuff I
was enjoying gonna go?
And in any one of these
services that have splintered
back from when we only
had one or two big things,
you know, their future is uncertain.
And that’s something to worry about,
like, there shouldn’t
be one single entity,
there should be competition,
but when it splinters and
splinters and splinters
and goes off in all these
different directions,
some of them just aren’t gonna make it
and they could take down some
good video games with them
and that’s something to also
be concerned about with Epic.
The fact that they have
this roadmap of content
and they haven’t really met a lot of it,
we’re still waiting for crucial elements.
I bring this up a lot,
things like a shopping cart.
There are many things, many conveniences
that other storefronts
have and people have said,
“Oh, well, give it time, give it time,”
that Steam didn’t work out too well
when it first occurred,
when it first appeared,
it had so many years to get good.
But, by the same token, other storefronts
have had that time, that
exact amount of time,
to learn from those mistakes.
You know, if I brought out a
video game console right now
and it didn’t even have HD,
I couldn’t point to things
like the Sega Genesis
and say, “Well, that
didn’t have HD at the time,
“so cut me some slack!”
Anyway, I’ve totally
gotten away from my point
and I am too sleepy now to get back to it,
so I’m literally just gonna end
the video, thank God for me.
(energetic triumphant music)
(Jim sighing)

100 thoughts on “An Epic Problem (The Jimquisition)”

  1. I want to go buy a copy of DARQ just to show a finger to Epic and give money to someone for sticking to their guns.

  2. The poisoning of the well thing is pretty much why I don't get into most discourse. I don't care to be grouped in with the absolute insanity that gets retweeted (or whatever other kind of SN sharing).

  3. 8:10 Really Jim and I bet your one of the people on Reset Era who tried to get devs fired for making insensitive comments in private. grow a pare and enter the fray

  4. How high are you? It's called if they don't wanna receive hate, then they shouldn't do the things that get them hate.

  5. You assuaged my fears that you were an unprincipled shill for Epic Store. (It's been several months since I was subbed to Jim so maybe things have changed.)

  6. What befuddles me most is that ppl seem to think Steam has no competition- GOG anyone? It's been there long since EPIC showed up.

    Place is DRM-Free, is very well moderated in a way Fake Games and Asset Flips don't last long, has some very good return policies and customer support, their launcher is fully optional, and even the Triple-A guys don't publish there much so they don't take away the limelight from the smaller Indies, not to mention they have a storefront that actually works.

    GOG is great competition against Steam, and sometimes I wonder if EPIC, rather than hurting Steam, is actually hurting them…

  7. I mean, if Steam would do literally ANYTHING AT ALL to make an effort to be competitive, it wouldn't be getting eaten. Steam isn't a small fish, Steam isn't a mom and pop store, Steam is the big fish in your scenario Jim, and Epic is the little fish, and somehow with shear money-power, the little fish is working on eating the big fish.

    Steam is a sleeping giant that just doesn't care anymore and while Epic is to blame for a LOT, Steam is to blame for sleeping on all of this and not even attempting to be compete.

  8. Yeah instead of an oligopoly on games we should encourage complete state sponsored monopoly great idea mr. Communist

  9. Hey Sterling, have you considered doing anything about itch .io, your thoughts on it, and pros/cons? Any time indie games come up, I immediately think of it as a storefront, since most small devs I know prefer it and will publish there over everything else (even if it shares some similar problems to Steam, i.e., being flooded since people can toss up anything from experimental projects to full games)

  10. There were so many points made in this video that made me want to hit the like button, but I'd already hit it. So I just wanted to comment to say I wish I could like this 15 more times. Never stop exposing the bullshit that is CAAApitalism, Jim.

  11. Just because Epic are dicks doesn't mean everyone should be dicks. If you just want to be dicks you're no betting than Epic or capitalism!

  12. I feel like there's a big over lap of the people harassing game Devs and those who are still complaining about The Last Jedi.
    It's the same energy.

  13. Oh a GROWN UP discussion Jim? You're preemptively talking down to us like we're children?? Very RUDE 😡😡😡 Disliking and unsubscribing this is no way to treat the random passerby viewers who are your life support. The nerve…

  14. Ooblet devs;
    "You are all are terrible people."
    *Is the worst
    "See here some things people told me when I was an asshole!"
    No alology, no selfreflection, just more "see, I was right, you all fucking suck so I was right to be a massive asshole!"
    No sympathy from me here. They became even more scummy, not less.

  15. I still don't understand why you seem to continue to claim that games are "dying on the vine" on Steam thanks to the trash games, when for quite a decent while now, everyone's store page list has been curated to them based on what they enjoy playing. I'm someone that plays visual novels…even some of the porn ones…and enjoys trying out weird and obscure indie games. The last time I saw an actual trash game or asset flip was before the Discovery 2.0 release.

  16. I don't like Epic's business model as much as the next person but I don't think we should be changing our economic model that has made us so successful because you can't get the game you want on steam. What kind of economic model are you suggesting where business aren't free to make business arrangements where a supplier only supplies their product to a single store?

  17. You're fucked. I had a dream everyone turned into vividly detailed Zoidbergs the other night. They we're all clip clopping their claws and laughing at me. This video has blown my mind.

  18. So you side with the toxic entitlement of the developers?
    If ooblets were a EA, how would the situation be any different?
    Imo in no way.
    Anyone starting a business has a business strategy, if your strategy is mostly relied upon getting an Epic deal, then your business is doomed to fail from the start, And getting funding for your project would be extremely hard to get, if not impossible. You totally ”forget” to handle this aspect in your video. However I think you already know why that is.

  19. That Grandia music at the end though. <3

    Edit: Your Jimpressions for Grandia HD Collection has appeared, and I didn't even know the collection was coming, never mind your impressions.

    Thank God for Jim Fucking Sterling.

  20. I gotta say, I have zero sympathy for Epic. What they're doing is a disgusting attack on consumers and on PC gaming as a whole. I wouldn't personally engage in "toxic" behaviour and I will condemn it when someone made a videogame someone else didn't like, for example, or if they were rude on twitter. If they were getting death threats over fortnite or whatever, full sympathy. But they have crossed a line, and at this time I DON'T have sympathy if they're getting death threats. I probably wouldn't even care if someone carried out such a threat. THAT is how seriously I take what epic games is doing, it's intentionally trying to create a market that is similar to the pharma market or the ISP market. It's an attack on the common person. Again though, I would personally never engage in such behaviour, I'm just talking about where my sympathy lies. Fuck Epic. There's a big big difference between what eg. the ooblets devs did and what Epic is doing.

    Edit: The problem isn't random indie devs though, of course. I refuse to buy any game that goes epic exclusive (ever, even when it goes onto other platforms) and if that's what you want to do, do that, send a message. But the devs aren't the one trying to destroy the gaming market. I can respect a dev that turns down epic, but I can understand one that doesn't (aside from obviously crowdfunded games and the other conflicts you mentioned). Epic is the problem. They're the predatory motherfuckers here.

  21. Bethesda did another oopsie. they added in an advertisement in their newest patch in-game for their atom shop at just "one location" but in-game its at every single train station (train stations being the main vendor hubs across the map) and the thing has a "swag" covered vault boy cutout with the "ATOM STORE" above his head in bright fucking lights.

  22. Tim Sweeney, to me, looks like a pedo.

    Don't take the candy.

    Yeah, that make me toxic? I'm astonishingly fine with that. I AM a poisonous monster, and exceedingly malicious towards greedy liars.

  23. Just looked at the actual article about the Ion fury developpers allegedly being "transphobic" and "sexist", and it's complete bullshit. None of what is actually cited in the article is transphobic or sexist. And right now they seem to be insulted and harrassed because of it.

    Absolutely disgusting the world we live in right now.

  24. My problem with the Epic store, is how I started receiving unsolicited Fortnite ad emails to a work email address I never use for games, or ancillary social media things either, approximately a week after I picked up Axiom Verge through them. Then another week after that, the big blow-up about their software over-harvesting private information from Steam hit the Internet. There are clear problems with their overreach that don't just include hassling publishers into signing on for exclusives.

  25. I kind of don't care about all this PC platform drama. If one has the game I want to play, I choose that one. If both do, I choose the easiest or cheapest. If the game or platform pisses me off, I stop supporting it. Free market. Devs are responsible for their own financial decisions. They are also free to not use any platform at all. It's just a video game. No telling if the death of one great game leads to the birth of many even greater games. I don't see anything ridiculously anti-competitive. It's not like Epic held anyone hostage at gunpoint.

  26. Regarding your final comments, Epic has always had a shopping cart implemented in their e-commerce software via the UE4 store. The problem has always been that Epic doesn't want to implement those features but passes them off as needing more development and work on their "new" storefront until they feel it's the right time to show them off.

  27. Honestly the "like and subscribe" thing is only half a joke, the begging is obviously a joke but you ARE reminding people to do it…so…it works in a way if no one thinks you're ACTUALLY begging xD

    I just toss out a like everytime you use a shot from "The great mouse detective"…best movie about crime investigating mice there is.

  28. Jim, I looked into the supposed “Transphobic” and “Sexist” comments and they weren’t really that. They were more against “SJW”ism which, quite frankly, I can get behind.

  29. Inflicting damage on the competition is what competition is about otherwise we'd all be happily working together in co-operation not running in a rat race under capitalism. Jim needs to stop making out like there's a good way to compete, there isn't. What epic is doing is exactly competitive in the very sense of the word. Quit trying to polish the turd that is competition and you might get somewhere.

  30. Hey Jim, As was covered earlier, people can and will fake Discord posts. What are the odds those supposed "Transphobic and sexist remarks" from the Ion Fury team were faked too?

  31. Also…just fyi, I can't BLAME others for you taking down your video, I get why you did it and I'm not going to launch an attack at you, personal or otherwise, for you doing what you think is right but…just like I don't blame YOU for the vile crap some people have directed at the Devs who take the "Epic" deal I can't blame them for you taking your video down.

    No one MAKES anyone do anything and while I agree, that video and it's comments might have made some asshole somewhere feel justified in their assholary…I don't think it CAUSED this attitude nor does taking it down suddenly stop it. These people are waiting for a target to take their anger out on and if it's not your video it'll be another or some comment irl or just a sudden feeling of dislike brought on by nothing.

    This is a case of taking down the video because it makes YOU feel better…which isn't a bad reason seeing as how I wouldn't want you posting things you don't feel good about but…it's a bit silly to try to say it's because of someone or to pretend it has any impact on what assholes do with their time, you're NOT directly OR indirectly doing anything aside from what you did, upload a video with your take (a reasonable and not at all vitriolic take) on the situation.

    I totally support your right to upload or not upload or take down anything you HAVE uploaded especially if you're no longer comfortable with that content or the response it provokes but that's a far cry from pretending it HELPS the situation.

    The entire problem is that people with any DECENCY don't comment out of fear of being lumped in with the crazies, that there is no where to point and say "look, this is the problem, it's not just some hate boner, it's a real issue which can be discussed like adults" and while, again, I support your right to do what you'd like…you blaming yourself, feeling misdirected shame as being part of a community who disagrees with the Epic store's nonsense, and shutting YOURSELF up is exactly the issue. The company can point to this crap and pretend it's ONLY crazies, pretend it's the same group who think EVERYTHING needs hate speech.

    Basically…you taking down your video isn't HURTING anything, it's just a choice, but it certainly isn't HELPING, it's just…doing nothing and feeling like you've made some protest against the asshats of the world while having ACTUALLY done absolutely nothing. Not something I'd blame you for since you have no OBLIGATION to do anything but…not something to be mentioned as if someone drove you this action and like it's actually a meaningful thing. It means no more than the fact i DIDN'T"T make a video…it's just a thing that happened.

  32. I'm just here to watch the show, at this point. I want to see if Epic's huge gambles work out, or they fall flat because they're so out of touch.

  33. You forgot to tell your audience how the Ooblets devs taunted the gamers! You don't poke the Hornets nest and don't expect retaliation!

  34. u know alot jim but ur deffenetly ignorant to sjw toxicity . Im sure your not gonna take the time to reaserch wether iron fury was in the right or wrong. im sure u saw the title of the article and just beleived it, and ur like , well saved me some money then. even tho sjw make severe accusation over stupid shit as it is. But then again i know ur more on the sjw side anyway. Go woke go broke tho.

  35. Yeah, I dont want to get to the either side of this "war" because one side is epic while other side is mostly consisted of microdick angry toxic mob that straightforward abuses everyone else thinking that will prove their point which makes me sick.

  36. also to not try or buy a game based on political stading, ur own or the developers, is pathetic. thats why ppl say politics have no place in games in the first place. for all u know the game is good. good luck siding with the outrage culture loosers.

  37. I call it the "begger", not beggar, that's any person. Let's define the begger as the bit in the video ("please like, subscribe, comment below"); that like "spare any change?" makes one perform a mandatory cliche of the environment.

  38. Just avoid epic…every one of my friends are avoiding it. But jim Sterling always promoting epic in clever way.( He makes it look like he wants to criticize epic but actually he is doing opposite. Not to mention saying flase things about steam. Fu*king Witcher 1 was major hit due to steam)

  39. Steam is not a Monopoly.. Jim Sterling twisting the fact. You have gog , itch io ( which gives 100% revenue to developer) , origin, discord. Steam is best for a reason. Steam never muscled it's way to the top.

  40. After seeing what epic did to gears with judgement, ya fuck them. Want nothing to do with those shitheads. Ghey only need to take 12% cause they made a killing off a garbage ass game like judgement before selling the ip to the shits at microsoft. That game was full rwtail price, with far less content than gow 3. Same engine n chars despite the previous had well over 20, judgement had 6 n like 9 with preorder bonus'. Seriously, fuck them man. Am.I salty. No im still pissed at their fucking childish behaviour towards the fans. They fuckin made a 1/4 ass efort n sold it for the same price as gears 3 which was full effort. Fuck them, cant say it enough. Fuck them, i want my my money back like meatloaf said. Its the only series i cared about at the time, so ya.. again, fuck them for tryin to take advantage of me n my friends. I knew better they didnt, so i bought it to play it with them. I knew exactly what theybwere doin n i was in high school. Fuck them

  41. I don't know about the implications of this, but the instant you talked about liking and subscribing, I actually remembered to hit the Like button. Maybe those chuckleheads who do it in every video actually have a good point.

  42. Hahaha, knew you'd have something to say about the stupid as fuck Ion Maiden outrage. Wasn't it you, yourself, saying just like, an episode ago about separating stupidity from developers from a product itself?

  43. Remember Jim,YOUR the one that was happy and excited for Epic Games giving Steam competition but now look at what's happen to Epic Games lol and i saw this coming from a fucking mile away since fortnite was shit to begin and was making fucking loads of money and i knew that this shit was gonna happen too

  44. i was excited to play Control next week only to find its epic exclusive which killed all excitement and i just won't buy it so Astral Chain and Man of Medan instead

  45. Wow, this was actually a really well thought out dissection of the Epic Store. Also I hadn't realized they weren't allowing non exclusives on the store, big bummer on that one. I agree that indie developers probably should take the deal for now, but it's such a complicated situation when the backlash is so toxic.

  46. I have to disagree with Jim about blaming indie developers for taking the EGS deal, at least in most of the cases I see them actually taking the EGS money. (Death threats et al are of course uncalled for) Like the Ooblets situation, for example: There are objective reasons to dislike EGS, which they dismiss out of hand or seem wholly ignorant of. They also didn't attempt to connect with fans about the funding situation, essentially implying it would leave them "beholden" to undesirables, nor look into early access on Steam as a means for cash infusion. Instead they buried their morals and took an anti-consumer buyout from a company that has repeatedly exhibited terrible behavior, offers no features, and doesn't care about data security or privacy.
    If you as a developer cannot be assed to care about your playerbase, the ecosystem supporting your game and users, and visibly hold the end user in contempt; then I'm going to hold you in contempt as well and take my money elsewhere.

  47. Is there no possibility that some of this convenient brigading is being paid for? I mean, if I was an amoral corporation with an infinite pockets that's a no-brainer tactic that i'd engage with alongside my social media like-buying.
    EDIT: It only took a little bit of googling to ascertain that brigading someone off social media is a relatively cheap. I'm a minimum-wage worker and I could afford it lol.

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