How to get Hired – Chapter 2: How to Find the Job You Want – and Get It!

How to get Hired – Chapter 2: How to Find the Job You Want – and Get It!


My number one focus was money. How am I going to make that million bucks by the time I’m 25?
Or whatever it was. Whatever unrealistic expectation I set for myself.
The truth is that, no matter how much money I made, it never was enough.
You know in real estate I didn’t really enjoy what I was doing.
If I don’t enjoy what I’m doing it doesn’t
really matter how much money I’m making,
because what am I doing with my life? I’m basically going to work doing something I don’t like doing,
to make money, to support my life, so that I can keep going to work doing something that I don’t like doing.
And I would rather live a short life doing stuff that I love, than a long life doing things that I hate or that I don’t want to do.
What if you were to ask yourself the question:
What if money were no object? What if money didn’t matter? Then what would you want to do?
My suggestion to you is to drill down inside and find out, you know, what is it that I really want to do that I enjoy doing?
And then choose that for your career. Choose that to start your career.
So, you need to identify, somewhere in your head, what exactly is the kind of company you want to work for?
What is the kind of job you want to have? And then go after it. That’s what you need to do.
And I hope that just blanketly send out 160 resumes, you can’t possibly be qualified for 160 jobs.
Don’t go and apply for a job that you don’t want to do.
You’re still young and if you start doing it, you know, you start working it and you don’t like it, then find another job.
Because it’s just horrible when somebody does not like their job horrible when somebody does not like their job
Better to find that out now, then to go into a company and I think, “I don’t really like it, but I think later,
when I’m making more money I’m gonna like it.” You know, then five years down the road you still don’t like.
Those are five years you’re never going to get back.
You know, maybe you made some money, but were you happy?
No. Probably not and you probably told 100 people along the way how much you hate your job.
You know and we all know someone like that. We all know probably a lot of people like that.
A lot about culture now, which you couldn’t get before, is on the internet too.
When you look at the company’s website and see the kind of things they have posted
and you look at companies Facebook pages, if they tweet, what their tweets look like.
If you can find people that work for that company, maybe on LinkedIn,
if you do a search of that company on LinkedIn and see what kind of people work there.
So, it just requires a little research on the internet and you can get a good idea.
I mean that’s a really good point because in the old days when you didn’t know.
People would come in and I would interview them and I’d go, “Why do you want to work for us? What do you know about us?
How do you make a decision? Because I’m going to offer you a job and next week you’re going to start.
And what if you hate it? I mean you don’t even know if you like it here.”
So, they would base their decisions on things that they saw in the lobby. So, it’s a lot better these days.
You can get information off the internet.
LinkedIn.
LinkedIn is great.
We were just looking at…our company just updated their profile on LinkedIn and we have a video there.
And so you can see employees
talking about working there.
And why they want to work there and…
The culture fit is really important. You know, so when we have people coming in, say to the staffing agency, looking for jobs,
a candidate may have all the qualifications for a position, but they’re just, you know,
maybe the candidate is very formal and very serious and the company that wants to
hire someone with those qualifications is, you know, is just really loosey-goosey, it’s really casual, jokes around.
And you know I may think that this is not going to be a good fit to put this person in this culture or vice versa.
The company’s super serious and candidate is, you know, more just kind of relaxed and loose.
I’d say it’s the look and the feel of a company. The unstated and stated behaviors.
Things like, do they take an hour lunch or do they just eat at their desk? Or do they do things outside of work?
Do they, you know it sounds silly, but do you see employees wearing the shirts that the company gives out?
Are they proud of who they’re working for?
When they talk about the things they like about the organization do you get a sense of them doing things that interest you?
The people that you’re talking with, can you connect with them?
So, before we had this new automated applicant tracking system,
we were probably getting upwards of a hundred resumes per job, but now that process is totally automated I’d say it’s probably 3x that.
So, we get like 300. It’s a lot.
Per job
Yes. Work experience is huge, but also
it’s really personality.
I mean you have to have the right personality too because you could have all the skills that you need to be in this one department,
but if you’re not going to mesh with the people…You know, it’s just you really have to know how to relate with people.
Diversity is huge, especially in this world.
you know I mean and you have to be you know it’s
adapting to change and diversity and you
When we are interviewing and you’re going through the interview process and you’re finding out what everybody’s, you know, what they’re really about.
How do they handle stress? How do they handle difficult people?
You’re taking the extra effort today. If you continue to take that extra effort throughout the next few weeks,
the next few months of your job
search, you’ll end up in a good spot. I guarantee it.
Because, you’re going to stand out.
Alright, it’s people like you that stand
out just by being here, you know,
and instead of sending a resume to a company blindly, actually stopping by the company.
Say, “Hey, I saw that you had a posting online, I just wanted to see if maybe I could talk to someone here, do a quick interview,
have a quick tour, learn more about your company.”
Just showing your face, showing up in person, you know, you’re going to stand out from the thousands of resumes that were emailed to the decision-maker.
I don’t have an easy answer for how you get your first job. I mean there’s not an easy answer.
It’s oftentimes just that. You thought it would go this way and it turns out that it went in this way.
You talk to someone and they say, “Oh, you should call my friend Bob. He’s hiring.”
And next thing you know, because you just were talking to Valerie, and suddenly…
There’s so many places that you can network that you don’t think about.
And you say, “Hey, you know, is anybody else looking for a job?
I have run into a stop here and does anybody know anybody that’s looking for somebody?”
Just network. Talk to people, network and get out there.
That’s such a great point because I sometimes think people think networking is going to a cocktail party
and schmoozing with people and giving them your business card, but networking is everything.
You’re networking right now.
Think of the things that you’ve had experience doing and I mean it almost sounds like a cliché, probably because we’ve said it so many times,
that there are things that you do in your
life that, though they’re not employment,
they still speak to your skill set and
your ability to show up regularly.
So, if you volunteer regularly at an organization. If you have clubs that you’re involved with.
Leadership roles in that speak to how involved you can be with something.
And the skills that you can learn from that are things that can translate to it.
And that actually would stress, just because of the industry that I’m in,
I would highly suggest internships related to the field that you want to go into.
So, that it really does count as relevant experience. For us, we look at how many years of clinical experience you have.
You may have a year-and-a-half and not have the 2 full years that were looking for,
but you may have half a year of an internship related to that and that will get you in.
Until the next step. So, I do always stress that to get some experience in the field that you want to get into.
One way or another.
Ultimately you want to find something that you’re going to be happy doing.
Now is the time in your career to experiment with that. So you can afford to get an internship somewhere
and a couple months later or a week later find out I don’t like this and I’m not going to like it.
So, I want to do something else. Better to find that out now, then to go into a company and think,
“I don’t really like it, but I think later, when I make more money, I’m going to like it.”
Our company, Apple One, does not offer
internships, but some of our client companies do.
It’s probably the best thing you can do before you’re done with school and get some experience in an office environment.
You need to know Microsoft Office inside and out, Word, Excel, Outlook, and Powerpoint, to the degree that you are capable of learning it.
And, you know, really just get some experience as an administrative assistant,
even if that’s not the, you know, the
avenue that you’re going to take in your career,
I think that could probably benefit everyone. And learn how to type. You have got to be able to type 45-55 words a minute.
And I’m not just speaking from an administrative standpoint, I’m talking about a range of different career positions that you’ll need those basic skills in.
Let’s say for an example, you’re an accounting major and you want to apply for an internship in our accounting organization.
That would be very applicable and you would be considered. It’s tough though there’s a lot of people that want these roles.
So, you really have to kind of separate
yourself at, you know, at the top level there.
But, we offer it and definitely encourage it and see it as a great thing on a resume.
The reality too, is we have many, many incidences where we have people who have interned after their so sophomore year, after the junior year,
and then, boom, we hire them. And it’s a great example.
You know, I love to see that there are so many people here for a 4:30 in the afternoon meeting. I think it’s great.
I thank you all for coming because I’m interested in seeing you folks, at this time, and saying, “Hey Jackie. Call me.”
“How about an internship now?” So, tell me what direction you’re looking at.
And how do you view when you see that you’ve done an internship or volunteer work? When you see that on a resume. What does that say to you?
It says that there’s someone that’s working
interested in working here, somebody that’s committed, somebody that’s willing to, you know, start and finish.
I’d just like to ask you how much do you use LinkedIn in your process and do you go and look at people’s profiles on LinkedIn when you’re hiring?
Number one. It’s the number one source.
It’s Facebook for finding a job. It’s Facebook for employment. It really is.
Yeah. I can’t think of another tool that I could say was better. There’s not a craigslist. There’s not a job board out there that’s going to be better than LinkedIn.
And so if you don’t know what LinkedIn is… I always feel like it’s a great way for you to kind of have a fresh start with a professional social media page.
So, you might want to check it out and like kind of put all your career related stuff and your ambitions on that social media and develop it so it comes up as well.
The recruiter is using LinkedIn to source. They’re doing word matches and so, you know, they might not be looking for a senior level engineer,
they might be looking for someone entry level and so they’re going to find you if you’ve got the right, you know, match.
And just an example, you know, I never kept my LinkedIn profile updated and LinkedIn is awesome because it will tell you, “Your profile is only 10% complete.”
and they’ll prompt you to get it done and finally, you know, at one point I just got it done, it’s like 95%.
When I got it updated to 95% I started getting all of these recruiter calls and I’m like, “This is really interesting. So, I guess this thing really does work.”
It is one of our biggest resources and LinkedIn is a great opportunity for you to separate yourself from the clutter,
because now is the time when you have professors who probably would be willing to write you a letter of recommendation, right?
If you’ve developed a relationship with them. Get to know your professors in the beginning of the of this semester, develop that relationship,
and at the end of the semester ask them to write a letter of recommendation for you.
Have an updated resume on LinkedIn, right? You can build out your profile on LinkedIn so much, to where if you’ve got your resume
and a handful of letters of recommendation, posted on there, you’re going to be in like the 98-99 percentile of everybody on LinkedIn.
I can honestly say that I absolutely do. I will look at your Facebook. I will look at your Twitter account. I will look at your Instagram.
And I will figure out whether or not you’re somebody that’s going to be responsible enough to show up to work.
If you’re doing a keg stand, you’re probably not somebody I want to interview right away.
I probably will still interview you because you took the time to go through the process with me
and I will be respectful to be able to give you that time back and hopefully you’ll be able to change your thought process.
I see somebody smiling when he looks at that, but, you know, what you think about the things that you put out there.
I get it, you know, I totally understand it. Just make it private.
You know, don’t give the world everything, all at once. You know, I can’t tell you what to put on it or what not to put on it,
but just know that it happens and I know in major corporations and stuff like that, now they’re really, really looking at those.
They have people that will screen applicants through that process all the time.
You know, Facebook was huge. Instagram’s becoming pretty big with them using that as a screening tool
But, it’s just things that they’re going to look for. Just different ways to help them understand who you are and what your character is like.
What about you guys?
It’s a great area for us because we work for the UC system. I work for the UC system. So, we do have we have to be consistent
So, we have certain policies and procedures that we follow in the recruitment process.
Something really quick with social media, as I was thinking about it, when I look at some of the employee handbooks and stuff like that
in some of the different retailers that we work with, social media has been written in there now.
You can actually be terminated for talking negatively about the company or certain things like that.
So, just to remember that as you guys are, you know, posting.
I’ll tell you what I advise students, because we talk about Craigslist a lot.
There is so much there that there are going to be some opportunities that you want to submit your resume for,
but I think that’s a little bit unfair that they don’t identify themselves.
And I think you could say something like, “I’m submitting my resume in good faith. I’d like to know more about your company.
Please let me know who you are so I can do some research and tailor my letter to you.” Or something like that.
And the other thing I say is to proportionally spend time on things that are not sure bets. Spend your time wisely.
If you’re sending a resume and cover letter out to somebody who hasn’t identified themselves I wouldn’t spend a lot of time on that,
but instead, if you found a place and you’re like, “Wow. I’m really a match for this.” You can do some research. You can maybe call the person that’s going to be the supervisor.
That’s where you really want to invest some time. So, you know, kind of think about it in those terms
Once you find your focus and even going through a temp agency for all of you that are unsure what you want to do.
I encourage it because it’s a trial thing. I mean you go and you try it and you think, “Oh, I want to do this IT stuff.”
And you’re doing computer support and he gets you a job and you’re doing it and you’re like, “This is not what I want to do.”
And guess what? You tell him, “This is not what I want. Can you find me something else?” It’s a great opportunity.
It’s a great way to really figure out what you guys want to do, what you like, what your interests are.
Maybe this isn’t what I thought it was going to be or maybe it was just that company. I mean there’s so many resources out there for you.

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