OTR: State Speaker Robert DeLeo discusses Everett casino decision

OTR: State Speaker Robert DeLeo discusses Everett casino decision


ED: GOOD MORNING. IT’S SUNDAY MAY 5. TIME TO GO “ON THE RECORD.”
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE ROBERT
DELEO, 10 YEARS AS THE POWER
BROKER ON BEACON HILL. WHY ISSUES OF TRANSPARENCY, ARE
BRINGING NEW CHALLENGES.>>PLEASE KNOW THAT WE MADE OUR
DECISION WITH GREAT CARE. ED: THE STATE GAMING COMMISSION
GIVES WYNN RESORTS THE GO-AHEAD
IN EVERETT. BUT IS A FINE FOR BAD BEHAVIOR
LITTLE MORE THAN A PARKING
TICKET? AND HAVE MASSACHUSETTS DEMOCRATS
FOUND A NEW FAVORITE IN THE
PRESIDENTIAL RACE? THAT’S MAYOR PETE, AND HE IS
PACKING THEM IN AN SOMERVILLE. LET’S GO “ON THE RECORD.”
>>THE INSIDE WORD, NEWSMAKERS
ARE GOING “ON THE RECORD.”
ED: I’M ED HARDING ALONG WITH
JANET WU, AND OUR GUEST IS THE
SPEAKER OF THE MASSACHUSETTS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, ROBERT
DELEO. HE IS A DEMOCRAT FROM WINTHROP
AND BECAME SPEAKER IN 2009. HE WAS FIRST ELECTED TO THE
HOUSE IN 1991, AND REPRESENTS
THE 19TH SUFFOLK DISTRICT. HE HOLDS DEGREES FROM
NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY AND
SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY. MR. SPEAKER, ALWAYS GREAT TO
HAVE YOU “ON THE RECORD.”
JANET: HAPPY SUNDAY TO YOU. ENCORE RESORTS, USED TO BE KNOWN
AS WYNN RESORTS, IS GETTING THE
LICENSE AFTER ALL, DESPITE
CORPORATE ATTEMPTS TO HIDE
NUMEROUS SEXUAL MISCONDUCT
ALLEGATIONS AGAINST STEVE WYNN. IS $35 MILLION IMPOSED BY THE
STATE GAMING COMMISSION, IS IT
REALLY NOTHING MORE THAN A
PARKING TICKET? ROBERT: BUSY, THE ACTIONS —
OBVIOUSLY, THE ACTIONS BY MR. WYNN WORK UNPRONOUNCEABLE. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
WE’RE 5000 JOBS HANGING IN THE
BALANCE FOR ENCORE. SO, I FELT THAT IT WAS NECESSARY
THAT THEY OPEN ON TIME. THERE WAS SOMETHING INCLUDED IN
THIS YEAR’S BUDGET, BUT MOST
IMPORTANT, THAT THEY OPEN ON
TIME. THERE ARE SO MANY JOBS IN THE
BALANCE. I THINK THE GAMING COMMISSION, I
THINK THEY COULD’VE OPENED ON
TIME WITHOUT ANY REPERCUSSIONS. I THINK THE AMOUNT THEY DECIDED
IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HIGHEST
FINES EVER. JANET: YES. $35 MILLION IS ALMOST A DROP IN
THE BUCKET. SOME MIGHT ARGUE THAT IN LIGHT
OF WHAT THEY WOULD BE MAKING. ROBERT: AND NOT TO DOWNGRADE, OR
DOWNPLAY WHAT MR. WHEN DO — OR
DOWNPLAY WHAT MR. WYNN DID, IT
IS IMPORTANT THAT THE CASINO
OPEN ON TIME. JANET: THERE HAS BEEN A
MICROSCOPE ON THE GAMING
COMMISSION, SOME PEOPLE FEEL
THEY HAVE STUMBLED A BIT IN
DEALING WITH THIS WHOLE THING. DO YOU THINK THAT IS THE CASE? PERHAPS, THE LEGISLATION — THE
LEGISLATURE SHOULD LOOK INTO THE
GAMING COMMISSION? ROBERT: I THINK THERE WILL
ALWAYS BE SOME DISCUSSIONS. WHEN THE GAMING COMMISSIONS WAS
FORMED, ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS IT
TO BE AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION. MEMBERS AGREED THEY DID NOT WANT
TO HAVE SO-CALLED POLITICAL
INFLUENCE. THAT IS WHY I STATED IN ANY
LEGISLATURE TO COME OUT OF
COMMITTEE, I DID NOT WISH THAT I
WOULD —
JANET: BUT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN
HAPPY — ROBERT: THEY HAVE HAD SOME
CURVES THROWN THEIR WAY, SO TO
SPEAK. JANET: THEY HAVE HANDLED IT
WELL, IN YOUR MIND? ROBERT: IN THIS, PARTICULARLY. ED: LET’S GET TO THE BUDGET. THE BUDGET PROCESS THE PAST FEW
YEARS UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS
INVOLVED VERY LITTLE PUBLIC
DEBATE ON THE FLOOR. JUST ABOUT ALL MAJOR DECISIONS
ARE MADE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. WHILE SOME MIGHT ARGUE THIS IS
MORE EFFICIENT IS THIS IN THE
, BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC
.
VOTERS WHO WANT TO KNOW HOW THE
SAUSAGE IS BEING MADE? IS THIS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF
THE PUBLIC? ROBERT: THIS IS THE WAY WE HAVE
DONE THE BUDGET, EVEN BEFORE I
WAS SPEAKER OR IN WAYS AND
MEANS. IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE MEMBERS’
ABILITY TO HAVE INPUT, THEY HAVE
QUITE A BIT OF INPUT. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE
WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES MAYBE. DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, YOU
HAVE THAT ABILITY ONCE AGAIN. WHAT SOME PEOPLE FORGET IS ANY
MEMBER, ANY MEMBER HAS THE
ABILITY, IF THEY ARE DISPLEASED
WITH THE ANSWER OF THE CHAIR OF
WAYS AND MEANS, THEY HAVE THAT
OPPORTUNITY TO PULL AN AMENDMENT AND HAVE IT UP FOR A ROLE CALL
VOTE — ROLL CALL VOTE. I HOPE PEOPLE WOULD LOOK IN
TERMS OF THE CONTENT OF THE
BUDGET. I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD
BUDGET. RECORD AMOUNTS OF CHAPTER SEVEN. ED: BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PUBLIC
DEBATE ON THE FLOOR? ROBERT: AGAIN, MEMBERS HAVE THAT
ABILITY. JANET: BUT THEY ARE DOING IT IN
THE BACK ROOM INSTEAD OF ON THE
FLOOR OF THE HOUSE. MY MEMORY OF COVERING THE
LEGISLATURE IS THERE USED TO BE
HOURS AND HOURS OF PUBLIC DEBATE
ON THE FLOOR FOR WEEKS, NOT JUST
THREE OR FOUR DAYS. YOU KNOW? THE DEALS THAT WERE MADE, WERE
MADE OUT IN PUBLIC AS OPPOSED IN
ROOM 354, WITH IMMEDIATE IS NOT
ALLOWED. ROBERT: AGAIN, THE TWO IMPORTANT
THINGS, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE
PAST A BALANCED BUDGET AND PUT
MONEY INTO A RAINY DAY FUND IN
EXCESS OF $2.5 BILLION,WHICH IS
IMPORTANT FOR THE ECONOMY. WHAT WE DID FOR SCHOOL FUNDING,
FOR YOU KNOW, THE MOST
PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY DISABLED
IN THE COMMONWEALTH, I THINK IT
WAS A GOOD ONE. ED: DO YOU OPPOSE RAISING TAXES
FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FIXES? ROBERT: I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS
WITH THE FOLKS FROM “BETTER
CITY.”
HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH CHRIS
DEMPSEY, AND I REACHED OUT TO
THE GREATER BOSTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BECAUSE I WANTED TO
HEAR YOUR IDEAS. WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER HERE. ED: WOULD YOU SUPPORTED? ROBERT: RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING
AND ANYTHING IS ON THE TABLE IN
TERMS OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN
RELATIVE TO TRANSPORTATION. I THINK THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS
OF THE COMMONWEALTH — WHEN I
TRAVEL UP TO SPRINGFIELD OR
FURTHER WEST, THEY TALK ABOUT
THE NEEDS FOR RTA AND FINANCING. I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT PART
OF OUR ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE TO
HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION. JANET: BEFORE WE GO TO THE “OTR”
POP QUIZ, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT
CAMPAIGN WAR CHEST. YOU HAVE BEEN HOUSE SPEAKER
SINCE 2009 A DECADE OF DELEO AND
YOU’VE GOT $700,000 SOCKED AWAY
IN YOUR CAMPAIGN WAR CHEST
MAKING IT TOUGH FOR ANYONE TO
RUN AGAINST YOU. THERE’S A MOVE NOW TO LIMIT HOW
MUCH LEGISLATORS CAN KEEP IN
THESE ACCOUNTS. IS THIS A GOOD IDE
WOULD YOU SUPPORT THAT? ROBERT: I DON’T THINK SO. QUITE FRANKLY, WE HAVE VERY,
VERY STRICT LAWS IN TERMS OF
CAMPAIGN FINANCING AND WHAT WE
CAN ACCEPT FROM CERTAIN FOLKS,
YOU KNOW? AS SUCH, AS LONG AS WE COMPLY
WITH THE LAWS WE HAVE IN
MASSACHUSETTS, THAT SHOULD BE
SUFFICIENT. ED: READY FOR THE POP QUIZ? [LAUGHTER]
ED: YOU PUT THE POP IN POP QUIZ. ROBERT: I’M LISTENING. ED: YOU LISTEN, BUT YOU NEVER
SEEM TO AGREE. [LAUGHTER]
ED: JANET IS THE SAME WAY. [LAUGHTER]
ED: I JUST THAT OUT OF A VERY,
VERY DIFFICULT TIME WITH THE
BUDGET CONVERSATIONS. ROBERT: I UNDERSTAND. [LAUGHTER]
ED: RIGHT NOW, I ALSO FEEL THAT
WAS A CHEAP SHOT. WE DON’T NEED ANY OF THAT. [LAUGHTER]
ED: WE HAVE THE CELTICS, THE NFL
DRAFT, WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS
GOING ON. [LAUGHTER]
>>YOU CAN ONLY FILIBUSTER FOR
SO LONG. [LAUGHTER]
>>FILIBUSTERING IS OVER. [LAUGHTER]
ED: THIS IS ABOUT MASSACHUSETTS
HOUSE SPEAKER’S OF HISTORY. THE FIRST SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE
UNDER THE MASSACHUSETTS
CONSTITUTION PARTICIPATED WITH
THE SONS OF LIBERTY AND WAS AN
ASSOCIATE OF PAUL REVERE. THIS IS MULTIPLE CHOICE. WAS IT —
A, CALEB DAVIS. B, THEODORE SEDGWICK. C, HARRISON GRAY OTIS. ROBERT: I AM GOING TO SAY OTIS. ED: IT WAS DAVIS. ROBERT: I WAS TOTALLY WRONG. [LAUGHTER]
JANET: WHAT WAS YOUR SECOND
CHOICE? ED: QUESTION TWO, WE JUST
MENTIONED HARRISON GRAY OTIS, SO
WE WILL MOVE ON. SAMUEL ALLYNE OTIS, ANOTHER
FORMER SPEAKER, WENT ON TO
BECOME THE FIRST SECRETARY OF
THE UNITED STATES SENATE. IN THAT ROLE, HE HAD THE HONOR
OF DOING ONE OF THE FOLLOWING. ANNOUNCING THE ELECTION OF FIRST
PRESIDENT. ORGANIZING THE FIRST INAUGURAL
BALL. HOLDING THE BIBLE AT
WASHINGTON’S FIRST INAUGURATION. ROBERT: I WILL SAY C. ED: YOU ARE ONE FOR TWO. BOOM. ROBERT: I SHOULD GET HALF A
POINT FOR THE FIRST ONE. ED: WHY? [INDISCERNIBLE]
ED: WE W

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