The $1000 AMD B450 Gaming PC!

The $1000 AMD B450 Gaming PC!


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hello good people Eber here with
Hardware Canucks and MSI challenged us
to build a budget themed gaming PC around
the B450 platform essentially this
build should be able to game at 1080p
without a problem you should also be
able to do general productivity tasks as
well as a little bit of streaming so
it’s really geared towards ah you know an
all-in-one type of system that can do
pretty much everything that you can throw at it
nothing too intensive something that’s in
the middle ground when it comes to
productivity gaming and of course a
little bit of streaming as well so we
agree to that and as you can see I do
have it set up right behind me so let’s
check it out right after this so you’re
saying this is the most colorful way to
cool I’m telling you the master liquid
ML360R RGB is the way to go
cooler masters new 360 millimeter all in
one liquid cooler is all about
performance in style with the custom low
resistance radiator and dual chamber
pump with sleeve tubing for that premium
look while being totally flexible the
fan strike a balance for air pressure
and airflow with transparent blades to
perfectly match the colorful combination
of the pump that you can sync via its
own controller or through various
addressable and 12-volt RGB connectors
alright perhaps you should check it out
in the description below all right so our
CPU of choice was the Ryzen 5 2600X
priced at $230 it’s about 30 dollars
more than the 2600 but since it has a
TDP of 95 Watts versus 65 watts for the
2600 overclocking headroom will be a
little bit better this is because things
like XFR 2 and precision boost too will
take advantage of the additional power
headroom the six core 12 thread design
may be a little bit overkill for games
but at the same time the intent for this
build is an all-around PC for work
streaming and gaming moving on to the
real foundation of this build meet the
MSI B450 Tomahawk and you can pick this
up for as low as $100 now I know that
pairing up a hundred dollar motherboard
with a $230 processor may sound a bit
crazy but hear me out for a second
because I think DB450 lineup is
actually a lot better for these types of
Ryzen 2 builds than the more expensive
X470 platform first and foremost the
B450 chipset only supports a single
GPU but at the same time in this price
range who is really going to be using
crossfire or SLI anyways past that AMD
has equipped it with pretty much all the
same technology as the X470 just with a
little bit less connectivity all around
now this point in time you’re probably
wondering why you should buy a B450
motherboard over a B350 since
both technically support D bars and two
processors first and foremost is the new
chipsets compatibility with AMD’s StoreMI
technology StoreMI allows you to
combine an SSD hard drive and part of
the system memory as local cache for a
very fast very efficient storage setup
think of it as optane on steroids and
I’ll be covering a head-to-head
comparison between AMD StoreMI
technology and intel optane so
definitely stay tuned for that video
very soon now instead of simply updating
their B350 board MSI took the
B450 Tomahawk to a very different route
and that’s why i ended up choosing it
for this build
other than the cool overall design which
looks absolutely amazing for $100 it
features a more extended PWM heatsink
design there’s also finally a BIOS
flashback option which actually works
without a CPU or memory installed also
if things go wrong during the BIOS
update process it will simply allow you
to revert to an older version without
any issues probably the best thing about
B450 is its ability to overclock Ryzen
processors now that might not sound like
news but remember the competing Intel
H370 which costs about the same amount of
money doesn’t allow for any overclocking
at all which is disappointing the amount
of features you get for the price you
pay is pretty amazing as well for
example MSI added USB 3.1 gen2 type A
and type C connectors on the rear i/o
there’s an NVMe M.2 slot with access to
four PCI lanes for ultra fast storage
speeds and six fan headers placed at
pretty logical locations of course MSI
also added some onboard RGB lighting and
compatibility with their mystic light
sync speaking of lighting if you want to
add some flair to your PC and by that I
meant by just adding some subtle RGB
lighting the Enermax T.B. RGB fans are an
excellent addition they feature these
unique halo arc illuminations around the
frame that I’m personally a huge fan of
plus they can easily be synced to be an
MSI mystic lighting software which is
nice and remember this is just an option
so if you’re willing to expand your
budget for this build
investing in some great RGB fence like
the Enermax T.B. is something to consider for
memory I went with Corsairs 16GB
DDR4 Vengeance LPX modules rated at 2400
MHz
now these guys go for around $150 and
it’s refreshing to go with something a
non RGB and low profile it also matches
the B450 Tomahawk board really well
because I do want to mention the speed
of this memory module because it is at
2400MHz and while it can be
overclocked to a more respectable 2666
MHz Ryzen does perform a little
bit better with faster memory saving
some money and going with a 2400
MHz kit and then overclocking a
bit might be a good option alright so
for storage I chose the Toshiba RC100
240GB NVMe SSD this little guy
cost less than $80 and sports reads
speeds well about 1.6GB per
second and writes over a gigabyte per
second again for $80 and that’s
incredible considering that there are
SATA base SSDs in the market for that
price now for storing my game library I
threw in a 1.0TB Western Digital Blue
Caviar hard drive which should do the
trick
but I did find a 2TB 5400 RPM
hard drive on Amazon for around $60
which is about the same price as the one
terabyte drive now onto the graphics
card which is the most exciting part and
I went with MSI’s RX 580 MECH 8GB
OC now this thing is designed for better
cooling over the reference based models
the OC mode allows you to achieve core
clock speeds as far as 1390 megahertz
with memory clock speeds over 8000
megahertz it features dual Torx 2.0 fans
for effectively cooling the six
millimeter copper heat pipes located
underneath a large heatsink the fans
stop spinning completely when the GPU
temps are below 60C giving users the
flexibility when it comes to acoustic
performance you also get a solid brushed
aluminum backplane with some aggressive
design elements and the LED logo on the
side is RGB so you can control that
through MSI’s gaming app powering the
whole system is Corsairs CX550
non-modular PSU with an 80 plus bronze
certification for $50 this should be
more than enough to power the 2600X and
the RX 580 plus it does have a little
bit of room for
upgradability down the road now given
that this is a non modular unit you’re
pretty much stuck with the cables that
come with it so if you’re looking to go
a bit beyond the budget we have over
here to maybe add some visual elements
to your build CableMod’s Basic ModFlex
extension kits will be an excellent
addition as it’s simply an extension
rather than a full kit for the psu plus
around $35 it comes in a variety of
color options so that’s pretty awesome
the case of choice for this build is the
Phanteks P300 Mid Tower ATX enclosure for
$60 I think it’s an awesome buy because
it comes with a tempered glass side
panel a separate power supply shout
RGB lighting integrations clean interior
designed to work with and personally
speaking I really like its relatively
compact form factor I went with the
black and white version which is priced
a little bit higher than the standard
edition but you’re really not losing
anything in terms of features aside from
the color options so that’s nice well
now that we’ve taken a look at the parts
list here’s a little montage of me
putting together the entire PC
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and here is the final build in all its
glory I’m actually really happy with the
way how this turned out working the
Phanteks P300 case is an absolute
breeze you’re really not gonna have any
issues with cable management because I
certainly didn’t experience any of them
whatsoever routing them to inside the
main chamber they do have separate
cutouts so that’s great the white
interior does a really good job
showcasing the B450 Tomahawk motherboard
from MSI what’s really cool about
this white interior that’s inside the P300
case is that it diffuses the
ambient lighting on the motherboard
really well so I really like that also
shout-out to Phanteks for including a
subtle RGB element right between the
tempered glass panel and the separate
power supply shroud it just completes
the whole built in my opinion and looks
fantastic I mean you can just literally
take a look at it behind me it looks
great I absolutely love the way how this
looks so having looked at this PC we
obviously have to talk about performance
so why don’t we get into that now
initially I decided to go with the stock
cooler that came with the Ryzen 2600X
but for my previous reviews in the past
I did mention that if you want to
squeeze a little bit of performance by
overclocking the chip or if you do
intend to plan some overclocking for the
2600X you’re actually much better off
investing in an aftermarket cooling
solution so I decided to swap the stock
cooler with Thermaltake’s Floe Riing
240mm AIO cooler and not only
does it come with a high performance
waterblock sleeve tubings
but it also has RGB lighting so if you
do want to add lighting to your system
without investing in LED strips or under
go lighting this is a good way to save
cost on that end but it also squeezes a
little bit of performance out of the
2600X the two 120 millimeter high static
pressure fans come with this beautiful
frame elimination that looks very subtle
and sleek and interestingly this kit
also works with Amazon Alexa talk about
controlling fan speeds
with your voice that’s pretty cool anyways
back to performance and I managed to
overclock the 2600X to 4.
125 gigahertz at 1.42
5 volts using Ryzen master software
the memory speed also was set to
2400 megahertz given that this
is an inexpensive Ryzen compatible kit
I ran a few synthetic tests comparing
stock versus overclock settings to see
if there is a difference and I shouldn’t
be expecting but let’s take a look
kicking things off with Cinebench R15 at
stock settings we got a score of 1300
and with chip or clocked at four point
one two five gigahertz we got us a bump
on that score by seventy six points
which isn’t too bad but I’ll take that
any time of the day next up with Blender
rendering the BMW seen at stock settings
the system took 6 minutes and 12 seconds
to complete it compared to 5 minutes and
39 seconds with the overclock moving on
to some productivity and I mean I did
really push this chip really hard with
4K editing so I rendered a 12 minute 4K
project with GH5 footage and its stock
saying the system took 24 minutes and 51
seconds compared to 23 minutes and 50
seconds with the overclocked so you’re
really gonna be saving only a minute
which isn’t too much but at least did
something and now on to some gaming
performance starting off with 3D Mark
Firestrike the system scored 12804
with stock settings compared to 12844
with the overclock again very
similar performance
moving on to Battlefield 1 at 1080p set
to ultra settings we pretty much saw
similar results albeit I did
experience a little bit of a frame drop
with the overclock and then we have
Overwatch at 1080p set 2 epic settings
again same results here with both
settings averaging well over a hundred
and ten frames per second our last test
here is Doom at 1080p set to ultra using
the Vulcan API and as you can see once
again we’re seeing similar results with
both of stock and overclocked settings
averaging well over 145 frames per
second the CP temperatures were respectable
at stock sinks with the stock cooler the
2600X ran at 34C idle and 75C under
load but with the overclock using the
Thermaltake Floe AIO cooler the 2600X
ran around 74 degrees celsius under load
and 46 degree Celsius during idle now we
want to add some peripherals to complete
this setup and we chose MSI’s GK40
Vigor gaming combo set and this comes
with a basic RGB membrane
keyboard and of course the basic mouse
it gets a job done and for $65 we’ve we
thought that there was a perfect fit for
this build and when you put together the
parts list on Amazon at the time of
making this video including an operating
system and of course the MSI a
peripheral scent you’re looking at
around just a tad above thousand dollars
which is actually a really good system
or i guess a good setup for the price do
note that this is excluding the Thermaltake
AIO cooler when you add that
factor in you’re looking at just a
little bit over $1300 for our Canadian
audience memoryexpress is a place to go
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price guaranteed and that about wraps up
this bill video hope you guys enjoyed
let me know what you guys think about
the components that I have chosen for this
particular PC also what do you guys
think about the way how it looks are you
a fan of it are you not a fan of it love
to know your thoughts in the comments
down below
huge thanks to MSI and our other
partners for making this video possible
I’m Eber with Hardware Canucks thank you
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100 thoughts on “The $1000 AMD B450 Gaming PC!”

  1. There are some AWESOME comments and recommendations on this video! We wanted to address some of them; sorry for the long post. A) MSI did challenge us after we asked why they wanted to send the B450 instead of an X470. Almost EVERY other vendor typically samples the highest-end boards since they look / perform the "best". MSI was confident that their B450 board would be awesome….they were right. B) The 240GB NVMe drive was used since StoreMi only supports up to 256GB of "Fast Tier" SSD storage. This wasn't evident from the start but this video was posted "out of sequence" with a StoreMI piece we are still working on. C) The standard 2600 is a TERRIBLE choice in this case. Period. Its lower TDP constrains performance, especially when overclocked. It sounds like we need to post a video about this. D) The 2400MHz memory can easily be overclocked past 2666MHz. This should have been explained in the video and it was an oversight on our part. E) As Eber mentioned, the $1000 was based on a price without the optional liquid cooling, keyboard / mouse combo & Win10 OS 🙂

  2. Built my friend a 2600 build that's arguably more powerful than this for way less. It's amazing what you pay for visuals.

  3. i dont recommend this build for anyone who really care about high frames
    neither the cpu or the gpu can give you $1000 build performance

  4. I have a question.
    Does the motherboard showed in this video will support Sapphire Radeon NITRO+ RX 580 8GB GDDR5 ?
    It's my first build so please let me know if this motherboard will support this gpu.

  5. AMD's Wraith coolers are actually very good and can handle very well medium overclocking on their respective CPU's, which i think is totally enough in most cases. Plus, it saves you a bit of money !
     In my opinion you'll need to change your cpu cooler only if you are planning to hard overclock your CPU at its maximum capabilities or close to.

  6. cause 5400rpm 1tb game storage drives are what every gamer desires for 60 bucks!!!
    looks at Seagate 7200rpm 1tb for 55 dollars
    man this video is just… yeah..

  7. Question, if MSI did not challenge you, would you have gotten the RX 590 instead of the RX580? Or would you have kept it the same?

  8. I know this is old but pretty sure that’s not an NVMe drive. It is M.2 but it’s a SATA M.2 so won’t reach speeds any faster than any other SATA drive.

    The NVMe drives have M-key (one gap) edge connectors while SATA drives have B+M-key (two gaps) edge connectors, among other differences.

    I could be wrong, so correct me if I am, but I just saw that no one else seemed to notice this.

  9. i have this but with 16gb ram and 1070 armor got it for around 1200 dollar in sweden can do gta 5 , siege , battlefield 5 with maxed settings keep in mind things are more expensive here cuz skyhigh taxes

  10. by increasing ur budget to 1300 or 1500 u can get a better performing PC. I mean we r talking about longetivity, u don't want to upgrade ur PC just after 1 year or 2, u want something that is good enough for 3 – 4 years.

  11. Great component choosing, just a quick side note with nothing to do with the video at all…
    It makes no sence to have RGB in something that already has a non-static colour, like, for example red, orange, etc…

  12. i maid the same buidl with a nvidea gtx 1060. but now i wonder if the boxed cooler is enought to cool the cpu or if i need a new one. and if so, which one is best for this mb and cpu?

  13. Seriously?
    Have you chosen these rams to save money and bought this M 2 garbage?

    The ryzen works properly only with fast ram.
    (3200+)
    I think you have no idea from pc setup

  14. I am running the b450 motherboard, with 2700x w/stock cooler that amd sends, great cooler. 32gb gskill rgb mem, Samsung 970 m.2 nd then the other has wd blue 1.0 tb m.2. 1 spin 7200 rpm enterprise 4tb hd. 590 color master fat boy card. installed it all in a cooler master m500 case. 850w power supply. have just about 875 in it as I bought it on sale on black Friday.. only problem with b450 mobo is the vrm temps running way higher the the x470 does. but over all great system, plays all games so far.

  15. My computer is not working
    Cble is not connected
    But every thing is working
    Like cpu , gpu ,ram , motherboard,and monitor ,HDMI cable is working so why it's showing this massage

  16. I have one awesome Idea that you missed here to add some 15-20 FPS boost !!!

    Of Course, add more RGB lighting and there it is FPS boost as never before!!!!!!

  17. I built a PC for my little cousin with an RX 590 a 2600x a ASUS STRIX motherboard 16gb of CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO RAM. And it was $900 lol with 500GB SSD and 1tb hard drive and also a 600 watt PSU

  18. OMG that "overclock" is such a joke … 76 onto a score of 1400 "I'll take that"???? I built a better PC for £775 (MY OWN MONEY) using the same MB

  19. MSI can suck my fucking dick. They’re shit sucks and breaks constantly. Their GPU’s are a different story but their mobo‘ and peripherals suck donkey dicks….

  20. Don't y'all think he should've spent a bit less on case and spend a bit more in buying a 3200mhz ram sticks?

  21. Could I still do this build but instead of the 2600X I’d get just the regular 2600 and still be able to get close to the same results?

  22. 6 cores and 12 threads is HARDLY overkill for gaming given how little extra it actually costs for the Ryzen 2600 vs. good quad-core CPUs. Sure, only some games take advantage of it, but there are a bunch of games which really do take advantage of it, which will matter a lot more with a high-end GPU than it would with a mid-range or lower-end GPU, and obviously it's great for any heavy non-gaming workloads. In Canada, the 2600 is like 60 bucks more than a 1500X (less than 50 US price difference). If you're willing to pay for a high-end GPU, the extra cash for 2 extra cores on the CPU (not to mention better per-core performance) is nothing, like the same as the difference in price between a basic version of a videocard and factory overclocked one with a beefy cooler.

    Along the same lines, I really don't think you should be recommending a $50 US power supply in a decent system like this. I get that it's not a bad power supply, but the improvement in accoustics for a better power supply is, by itself, a good reason to pay another $20-40 bucks US for a nice gold-rated one which will also have a much better warranty, slightly better efficiency, should be more resilient against power fluctuations, and can (probably) handle a higher system power draw if necessary. A power supply doesn't go obsolete in only 3-5 years like the motherboard and CPU will, so you might as well get one that's built to last. There are lots of affordable power supplies with incredible 10+ year warranties, and presumably could work perfectly well for more than 20 years. It might take a few years, but you'll likely save money in the long run. In any case I would never feel comfortable with using one of these cheaper 3-year warranty power supplies whenever I end up rebuilding my system with a new motherboard (after maybe 5 years), and I always prefer to buy stuff which will last longer if at all practical, as I think that's ultimately a much more responsible way to do things. This raises an important question, at what point should you retire a power supply, and how would you determine this? The safest thing to do would be to replace it not long after the warranty expires, but any decent product is very likely to last much longer than the actual warranty.

    I was very lucky that my previous power supply somehow failed after I had already replaced it, as the first time I tested it after replacing it in my main system, it was totally dead, but I'm pretty sure that the first power supply I ever had totally killed my system when it failed, though thankfully it was already 8 years old at that point and I didn't lose anything important (and it might have been the motherboard, not the power supply, which caused the system to die, it's hard to know).

    Most PC hardware gets retired, or at least relegated to very un-important duties well under 10 years after purchase, but you probably don't want to plan to keep using a power supply until it fails completely, though I guess if it's well designed, it should have some kind of safety features in it which will cause it to stop functioning in a relatively safe and controlled way?

  23. Cau is use 2700x on msi b450 gaming pro carbon ac,because i won't do overclocking
    And i find that motherboard is in decent price in my country

  24. In 2019 i just did a build r7 2700x, vega 56 arez strix, 32gig ddr4 32000mhz, asus prime x470 pro, corsair hx 750, WD black sn750 250g m.2, crucial mx 500 2.5" 500g ssd for a shade over 1400$

  25. Going to purchase a new processor bit confused which one to pick Ryzen 5 2600 or Ryzen 7 1700 (Both of them cost the same).

  26. Ohohohohoh i can make a faster system featuring i5 9400f and rtx 2060 for gaming for…. For?
    For 900$
    Plus 100$ left for asthetics and something else

  27. Every time i watch videos on ryzen 2600 everyone always says "a little bit of streaming" what does that mean lol can I stream with this cpu or do i just bite the bullet and go with intel????

  28. i put together a ryzen 7 2700, 1660 ti, asus prime x470, 16 gigs of corsair 3200mhz rgb ram all inside an nzxt h500i all for 1070

  29. I have a build for $500 with a ryzen 5 2600 and a rx 480 8gb all new. How did you get that for 1000 dollars that's too expensive!

  30. You can get alot better performance per dollar w a used gpu. I built a system with a 2700x, 1070ti and 1TB ssd with a b450 tomahawk for about 850$

  31. Holy shit looking at this video rn prices are so much cheaper. I picked up the Ryzen 5 2600x for 180. A 1 tb m.2 nvme ssd for $88. $60 for 16 gb ddr4 ram clocked at 3000 MHz. $100 for the b450 tomahawk. $40 for a 650 watt 80+ silver certification psu. And a rtx 2060 for $320

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