What’s wrong with my game?

What’s wrong with my game?

Okay first what I find about you Tom, what is
very important, you have to skip a rope
a lot… because you are very hard on your
legs. It disables you to move faster and
to put more energy in the ball.
For example, your movements they are not
so bad but legs are too too stiff. You have to be much smoother with your
legs to move much faster.
That’s why the best exercise for
those things is skipping the rope
or work with the coordination ladder.
We will do it today, this afternoon with
the guys. You will see how they are doing
with the coordination ladder. And to be
coordinated between your legs and upper
body is unbelievable important for table
tennis. This is what I explained
previously about swimming.
I’m a terrible swimmer because I fight
against the water. You need to go with
the water. This is the same in table
tennis. You go with your body
not against your body. And you, you go
against your body because your legs are too stiff. Upper part is not so bad
but legs disable you to move faster. You are spending much more energy to
move from backhand to forehand or other
way around, than is really
needed. You have to be much
smoother and more on your toes. Your
weight has to go forward. You don’t play like this and then
move like this. And this is what you do.
You do like this then you move your legs
like you have one tonne on your
legs. This has to be really smooth what I
told you before, like like a boxer, you
have to move really smooth.
Not too many small movements like this.
Table tennis is one-two, one-two. The table is not five
metres. You don’t need 55
small movements because you are
losing time, so much time you don’t
have. This is for me the most important
part of your table tennis issue. You
will see when you start to move easier,
when you start to feel
your body better, you will play directly
better table tennis without practising extra.

72 thoughts on “What’s wrong with my game?”

  1. You are too stiff when playing, and you need to practice more on your recovery because when you move to another position you are having trouble going back to your initial position

  2. By the way,Tom,do you have a Instagram account?I wanna text you and talking about the table tennis.I really want to hear your tips and knowledges about your way in table tennis.

  3. Footwork. This is so important and unfortunately there is far too little training. But every stroke starts on the floor, goes over the foot, the leg, the hip in the upper body in the arm, in the wrist and then in the racket. Unfortunately, many players are not aware of this. You get really lazy even in old age and then play with your outstretched arm instead of taking one or the other step. Very good video!

  4. I thinking strength training is an enabler, but you still need to drill it into your muscle memory to be light on your feet. I am a long distance runner and have no problems staying low and doing weight transfer… In one spot. But as soon as I need to move, I cannot, because I'm too planted. Would appreciate some future videos in the future to help us with our footwork.

  5. There is one point that Chinese coach has different view, which is the amount of small adjustment foot moves. Chinese coach recommend more amount of small adjustment foot moves during the game, but it seems Rade doesn't recommend it.

  6. Dein Vorhand Rückhand Wechsel sieht schon jetzt deutlich besser ( tiefer, weicher) aus! Hoffe auf ein paar genauere Übungen, super Video 👍

  7. tt is very similar to dancing – movements have to be smooth and very flexible – you have to combine fast / slow movements very smoothly. you have to find out which part is solid and which is currently active (flexible). every movement is combination of another little movements and we have to join it smart 🙂

  8. Good point you brought up. Legs are vital for improving TT..most of us hit with the upper body or just the arm . I'm also working on improving my leg strength and mobility

  9. If you have problems with ur knees, try to make more flexibility exercises for ur leggs. I use to have problems also because I run a lot and with yoga I corrected this problem. Good luck !

  10. In the last exercise it appears that you have your finger almost in the middle of the rubber area with the forehand.
    You usually play grabbing like that? You change the grip when using backhand?

  11. As per usual good quality informative video, with excellent tips on footwork. You do make me smile with your easy going attitude, would love to have 1 – 1 coaching sessions with you. Please keep making videos, which I really look forward to weekly.

  12. I had a hunch Rade would pick out the footwork and I was right about it. So allow me to throw in my 2 coins on this, maybe it'll be helpful:
    1. I realised your legs spread wider and wider as the exchange kept going on. This can highly effect your ability to get into motion. Honestly I have the exact same issue, when I start throwing out top spins, so I'm guilty as charged as well. Nevertheless it might be something you want to keep in mind.
    2. Muscle strength is not the same as mobility! I have strength in my legs for days as I am an excellent sprinter. However I still found myself being rather slow at the table, especially back when I started. For table tennis you have to be quick, not fast. The ladder is something our head coach recommends too to develop the necessary skills. You might want to give it a try. Of course if your legs feel weak, some muscle gain might help, but it shouldn't be your focal point.

  13. I think your forehand topspin needs to be more spinny or and/or powerful so that it is more difficult for opponents to block or counter. Also, I think you need to work on your footwork like the coach mentioned. Also your forehand technique looks a little bit awkward

  14. The coach is right. It is hard to look at video of ourselves playing but it helps a lot to improve. I, myself found out that I was not bending my legs enough and then I move slower and it gives back pain.
    You seem to hit the ball a lot rather than gripping it. The serve does not seem so good (it is a bit high and the movement seems to come from the forearm and not the wrist) and again does not seem very spinny. The first top spin has to be spinny for me except if there is a possibility of finishing the point. Here I feel like you gave a ball which a bit fast but not fast enough to put yourself in a good position. Also, I am sure that you play better in real than in this footage as the camera highlights the problems.

    Do you think that you have this footwork problem because you started playing table tennis late?

  15. I don't know if strength is the problem. As I understand it, this coach says, you use too much strength, that's why it is and looks stiff. So I think main focus on footwork should be coordination and quickness. Everything fluently. Not necessarily stronger.
    Btw your channel is great! Your interview on expert tabletennis a highlight! I have tons of respect for you. Thanks!
    PS. It's very funny to read all those commenting "experts", what everything you are doing wrong… And just shows the Jungle of dangerous half-wisdoms where you can loose yourself. The best remedy is to go straight to the best for advise. This bundesliga coach in no time found something very important and defined it precisely. That's mastery

  16. Great video – this is the #1 issue for me. I'm overweight (I'm working on it) and I sometimes just refuse to move (my natural tendency is to not move enough). However, I try to set goals for moving into more shots versus just doing a reach for the shot.

  17. Get some slow tacky rubbers like Hurricane 2 with a slow blade like stiga offensive classic;your won't be able to cheat using only the elbow.European rubbers facilitate half baked strokes and sloppy footwork.

  18. Once again, Thank you Tom for your advices. I feel concerned by this particular slow legs issue, so I'll take into account the exercices you're speaking of.

  19. I by no means am qualified to coach table tennis, but I love playing the sport and am not too shabby. Based off the limited footage I saw, you seemed to like to speed things up a little. This in itself isn’t bad per say, but there is a limit on accuracy when doing that. If you really wanna throw someone off, try to be in control of the speed of the ball. I find most of my opponents like to attack a slow ball. However, if they are going face paced in their mind and then you slow the ball, then they are likely to over attack it without giving second thought and either completely miss the table or hit it in the net. Personally, I find placing those shots close to the net with heavy backspin is most effective. Again, not a coach by any means, but that was what I noticed. Speed of the ball was relatively the same between shots

  20. Thanks for video,many amateurs and semiamateurs have the same problem.When i saw your channel for the first time I thougt -How could this guy can teach you something when he is amateur-or semi.Now I see that is helpfull,because you invite Pro players and couches and they try to fix your bad technique and habbits habbits,and they are similar to mine

  21. If I may , you also use a lot of hand mouvement instead of waist , no real weight transfer in your forehand topspins. You know you are doing it right when you train your forehand topspins and you do many of them you feel sore in your stomach and not on your hand/shoulder

  22. Your forehand has poor movement. You need your free arm to follow your playing arm more. Like holding a box while trying to play the shot.

  23. What about your index finger? I mean it's place on rubber. Don't you have any problems with backhand (and stability of forehand)?

  24. It takes a big man to not only aknowledge his weaknesses but also put them up for public display. Kudos and good luck on your quest for improvement.

  25. This is one of the hardest questions to answer because there are so many answers. Probably best to list them then rank them in importance. Skipping for looser legs is not more important than improving your serve imho.

  26. The overall biggest problem is your stroke, which is related to your footwork as well. Your forehand stroke is too big and stiff, and i often see you slightly lifting your racket after you follow through. You need to improve your ball feeling overall and your overall form which tends to look awkward a lot. Keep it up!

  27. I'm not sure if this'll be seen, but my Chinese coach puts a lot of emphasis on using the entire upper body as a means of guiding your forehand shot, rather than just your arm. Use your waist and shoulder to generate momentum and your arm will naturally just follow their path. This'll improve your forehand spin and consistency.

  28. Tom. I have very similar problem and play style as you: legs not relaxed and not moving fast enough, small steps, knee problems, etc. Coach Rade's advice for you is very helpful for me. Thanks! Keep up the good work!

  29. Tom… You always have the chance of meeting professionals… Why don't you invite someone who could show some techniques for penholders… Especially for backhand… So we could see the flick or loops done with the reverse backhand… I know it's hard to find a penholder there… But I guess you can make an effort… 😅

  30. Nice video as usual. Takes guts to do this in public. I told you the same thing in different words nice to see you altered your perception on selfimprovement. To be honest it's quite amazing how well you still move as flatfooted as you usually play I could never do that. Getting the heels up will free your hip and upper body for rotation. It will also help your shoulder to stay healthy. The way you play now you do put a lot of stress on your shoulder. You sometimes have an aching shoulder or does it ache at the backside of your shoulder? I saw many players at your age with shoulder injuries making them end their tt career and it all happened because they do not understand "power from the ground" they play with their shoulder, they don't have a whiplike motion starting from the ground ending in the wrist.
    I like you are being aware you will have to build up your legmuscles simultanously, cause you will need it to avoid injuries. Essentially build up all the muscles around your knee otherwise a jumperknee, which is for many careeer-ending could be the result. Ever noticed that tape some of the players have below their knee especially the Chinese? Usually signs of some beginning symptoms or a jumperknee.

  31. Not coordinated … you should see me. That's good skipping already! But … I also see your arms are stiff, when rope skipping and playing table tennis (forehand – snap elbow!) And I agree you need better serves.

    Be aware of your strong points too. I think you are pretty fast in reacting to incoming shots. You are consistent, especially on backhand drive/topspin.

    Good luck!

  32. I have to ask why you have your forefinger in the middle of the racket on your forehand. I believe changing your grip / finger positioning too much, creates instability in your grip and can lead to soft mistakes when the speed of the rally increases.

  33. That's true, before the comment of the coach, i saw there is this problem with rapidity of your placement and your legs too stiff

  34. If you isolate your strokes and footwork to each individual occurrence, i.e. slow motion in a vacuum, they are actually quite good technically or at least reasonable. You are also fairly consistent. The problem is the heaviness, the stiffness and lack of relaxed bounce between strokes flowing into the next one. There is a lack of flow and the movements are quite discrete. If you get moved around by a strong player you will be very much lacking time. You will also struggle to generate power and spin to your full potential. This is very very difficult stuff for learning adults so your journey to improve this will be interesting. Kids pick it up easily. They look like bunny rabbits hopping around. For 15+ stone guys in their 30s or 40s or people with chronic injuries it's different but everyone can improve. P.S. try a basic barbell strength program for your weights combined with Rade's suggestions it will really help imo especially if you've had injury problems. Ensure good form though, that is the most important thing. YouTube and filming yourself helps a lot just like TT. Obviously work with your injuries. A barbell training coach would help massively.

  35. Hilarious how many people in the comments think they are in a position to give advice… Then you look at their channel and watch them play! 🤣
    I think you should do the same for your subs… Get them to send in a video and critic it – in the context of average/better local league players not pro standard. Only issue is the amount of 🔥 they might get from armchair viewers…

  36. You've improved a lot covering more space in the latter part of the video.. 👍 Nice job! I'll try to give it some time too.

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